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Unfair Advantage? - Nick Greengrass - 06-12-2019

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@Enzoe Animus-Knight
(1) What is your In-game name & Steam ID? - STEAM_0:0:88428788

(1a) Have you read through the Common Suggestions and Answers post? - Yes

(2) What is your suggestion? - Apparently there's a new building dedicated to the allied neutrals. Now I don't have mind having buildings dedicated to custom classes but please don't add unfair advantages the building has a hidden button and you cannot access the button to open the door from outside. If you want to add buildings like this please don't allow pvp there or the selling of snatches it just ruins the fun.

I don't mind that theres a building it's the fact that you can fade in the door kill people and fade it out and we can't do jack shit about it

(3) What made you feel that this change was necessary or would make a great addition? - There shouldn't be extra advantages for LIMITED Jobs 

(4) What could be possible negatives if your suggestion were to be added? - People who have the advantages because of the buildings might be upset about this change.



These screenshots are of the building that was up today.  As you can see there is no way to access it

https://gyazo.com/aed4605d3f9eff50d89e3be6434b02fa

[Image: 99748ddb39b4cd6f2e4e76c4e85d4466.png]

https://gyazo.com/99748ddb39b4cd6f2e4e76c4e85d4466


These 2 Clips that I got show how he has to fade it in and out using a hotkey providing another unfair advantage where you can't get in or damage him at all

https://clips.twitch.tv/NimbleCoyCheetahFreakinStinkin

https://clips.twitch.tv/FlirtyBeautifulMacaroniKappaWealth

Edit 1: Corrected Gramatical Error
Edit 2: Changed the word Neutral to Allied Neutral


RE: Unfair Advantage? - Lyla - 06-12-2019

Isn't that p much like DF graveyard, like you can't just go and murder them? Are you even supposed to get there to kill them?


RE: Unfair Advantage? - Enzoe Knight - 06-12-2019

There is a secret button on the outside, and I dont use the hotkeys for the doors, they have physical switches, its mostly for passive rp, but if you find the button and take it over its free reign I guess


RE: Unfair Advantage? - Nick Greengrass - 06-12-2019

(06-12-2019, 03:11 AM)Enzoe Knight Wrote: There is a secret button on the outside, and I dont use the hotkeys for the doors, they have physical switches, its mostly for passive rp, but if you find the button and take it over its free reign I guess

so basically I gotta find the secret button before you light me up with avada neato

Bringing up another point. How would we know that there's a secret button. I feel like something like that should be visible or else it's providing a disadvantage


RE: Unfair Advantage? - Myranda Nova-Aeternalis - 06-12-2019

Basically what Lyla said sums it up. It’s not meant for a PVP area like the pitch. I mean, there are signs that say if you aren’t an allied neutral, then you can be killed. It’s  just an allied neutral build , me and Enzoe made it. It’s not a permanent build, it’s a dupe, and we put the rules we wanted on it which aren’t super picky tbh. I feel like this suggestion is Kind of like asking if the prefect lounge can be open to students, but that’s just my opinion. 

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RE: Unfair Advantage? - Nick Greengrass - 06-12-2019

(06-12-2019, 10:48 AM)Myranda Nova-Aeternalis Wrote: Basically what Lyla said sums it up. It’s not meant for a PVP area like the pitch. I mean, there are signs that say if you aren’t an allied neutral, then you can be killed. It’s  just an allied neutral build , me and Enzoe made it. It’s not a permanent build, it’s a dupe, and we put the rules we wanted on it which aren’t super picky tbh. I feel like this suggestion is Kind of like asking if the prefect lounge can be open to students, but that’s just my opinion. 

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I didnt get this on the clip because it was removed before I could and I honestly didnt want to record anymore. But he was also selling snatches out of it with the door closed which keeps you from being able to attempt to rescue the snatch.

Isn't the point of bringing your snatch to the GY so you can sell them there and it also gives the light force a chance to save them.


RE: Unfair Advantage? - Myranda Nova-Aeternalis - 06-12-2019

I mean that’s the point of the graveyard, but this was something we built for allied neutrals, so you don’t have to rescue the snatches, honestly, it’s just an option at the graveyard. this build doesn’t have the same rules as the graveyard, it’s just a dupe we made to add a little twist with so many allied neutrals on the server


RE: Unfair Advantage? - Ryte Lionheart - 06-12-2019

There isn't anything written down that regulates what is required for an rp area or building. For example in my detention center, there isn't anyway to enter the office or cells as a player wandering around, it's only possible by role-playing. The area has multiple entrances but they only open by my hotkeys.

So it really just depends. If there was an obvious switch and you could access it to rescue the snatch then it's really no different then the graveyard shack.

They didn't build an impenetrable box and declare every force but neutrals have NLR in that pvp area from what I see in videos or the posts. Correct me if I missed anything


Edit: I will agree that a way in should be obvious enough with a bit of curiosity


RE: Unfair Advantage? - Nick Greengrass - 06-12-2019

(06-12-2019, 12:18 PM)Ryte Lionheart Wrote: There isn't anything written down that regulates what is required for an rp area or building. For example in my detention center, there isn't anyway to enter the office or cells as a player wandering around, it's only possible by role-playing. The area has multiple entrances but they only open by my hotkeys.

So it really just depends. If there was an obvious switch and you could access it to rescue the snatch then it's really no different then the graveyard shack.

They didn't build an impenetrable box and declare every force but neutrals have NLR in that pvp area from what I see in videos or the posts. Correct me if I missed anything

The Box isn't impenetrable (as long as you know where the button is), but the thing is that it has a hidden button that you have to look for, if the button was like right on the front that would be a different story but from the videos and screenshots there was no clear way to get in


RE: Unfair Advantage? - Jackie Sanguis - 06-12-2019

Hmm to be honest if raiding were to be allowed for this specific dupe then the "hidden" button which was describe should be a little bit more visible but not as accessible. If there's a way to counter then I feel like the argument given by Nick from this post should be resolved, the thing is when it comes to classes that cannot be access by 99.9% of the community there definitely will be people who feel iffy about them having a private lounge of sort.