These are not competitive but collaborative game-modes. Exploits may sometimes annoy other players, but they do not provide a gameplay advantage with any sort of meaningful long-term ramification, and can anyway simply be ignored for the sake of roleplaying (and those playing exploitatively are able to punished according to the rules as normal). Maintaining openness and encouraging participation in the process (materially, by way of other users providing further details on a given issue) is more important than pre-emptively eliminating the merest potential for inconsequential mischief.
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I don't know about the whole sub section thing. Sure it would be more organised to be worked with, but that's something the staff in question should already be used to, or even organise themselves. Could also prevent players from making multiple posts instead of a singular one. Nothing wrong with it, I just feel like it would be unnecessary work for Lexa to do.
  The name changing as a whole is very minimal, I wouldn't mind it.
  Big +1 for making it private. As someone who reported a lot of exploits regarding the new spell update, it wasn't nice to have people come up to me and complain about me "ruining" the fun. Even tho some exploits may be fun for them  it's not that fun for players who end up being the "victims" of them. Also, it would be nice to make it private so players don't come to this section on purpose to attempt the exploits before they get patched.

Overall, +1.


To the person replied before me: There are indeed long game breaking exploits who give others advantage on the server.

(01-05-2021, 03:32 AM)Etlenor Wrote: To the person replied before me: There are indeed long game breaking exploits who give others advantage on the server.

Features such as role choice also grant advantages if you are looking purely at mechanics. My point is not that exploits cannot be used to "win" fights or otherwise gain a mechanical advantage (and you misconstrue my remark by interpreting it so), but that whereas in a competitive game-mode these would be most urgent problems and every delay in remedy would cause great harm, in a non-competitive game-mode where mechanics are (at least in principle) secondary to the social and collaborative elements, it is more desirable that staff may occasionally have to address the results of exploitative play on an ad hoc basis, than that to avoid this effort all of the problems of secret discussions be further propagated (as opposed to being curtailed, a prospect in favour of which many are already arguing in threads relating to other reports sections).

(01-05-2021, 10:18 AM)The King of China Wrote:

(01-05-2021, 03:32 AM)Etlenor Wrote: To the person replied before me: There are indeed long game breaking exploits who give others advantage on the server.

Features such as role choice also grant advantages if you are looking purely at mechanics. My point is not that exploits cannot be used to "win" fights or otherwise gain a mechanical advantage (and you misconstrue my remark by interpreting it so), but that whereas in a competitive game-mode these would be most urgent problems and every delay in remedy would cause great harm, in a non-competitive game-mode where mechanics are (at least in principle) secondary to the social and collaborative elements, it is more desirable that staff may occasionally have to address the results of exploitative play on an ad hoc basis, than that to avoid this effort all of the problems of secret discussions be further propagated (as opposed to being curtailed, a prospect in favour of which many are already arguing in threads relating to other reports sections).

I think you're missing the point. The suggestion is about making this section more comfortable for players and staff to report, to make bug reports increase in quantity, it's not about which ones should be fixed or not, that's up to the higher staff team. Regardless, I didn't mean fighting advantages. Only 5% of the server takes fighting in a competitive way, and when that happens there are events solely for those moments. I mean exploits that make other people's experience unplayable, while others use them for their advantage, eg.: the astronomy exploit that gives a permanent jump boot until the player gets killed or arrested; spell exploits; etc.

I wasn't really sure what I felt about this suggestion, there are benefits to allowing other players to assist with bugs which may have workarounds or temporary solutions, but on this note:

(01-05-2021, 03:32 AM)Etlenor Wrote: Big +1 for making it private. As someone who reported a lot of exploits regarding the new spell update, it wasn't nice to have people come up to me and complain about me "ruining" the fun. Even tho some exploits may be fun for them  it's not that fun for players who end up being the "victims" of them. Also, it would be nice to make it private so players don't come to this section on purpose to attempt the exploits before they get patched.

It shows a solid reason to hide them. I don't expect there to be much in the way of complaints to this change, as the bug reports sections don't contain Juicy Drama ™ so there's not a big loss. As for renaming and recategorizing, I don't think it's overly necessary, there aren't many bug reports to warrant sorting. I think I will allow server staff to view reported bugs, it can help to know how someone is doing something to see if it's intentional, this does open the door to intentional abuse by staff, I can only hope that either never happens or is swiftly dealt with. Oh, and I'll do this for Halo as well, but not the forums, I benefit from multiple data points to help fix bugs and it gives me more detailed explanations.
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