John Wave

#1
(1) What is your name? - Dmitry Escobar

(2) What is their name? - John Wave

(3) What is their SteamID? - STEAM_0:0:203852801

(4) What did they do wrong? - Banned for a week ( Mass RDM)
10 people was stuck in a door, the admins didn't support for over then 3-4 minutes.
so I decided to kill a few people after that one of them started to scream "kill me" (I was also stuck)
I wrote a ban appeal today and 5-6 staff members told him that I need to be unbanned.
But he told me that he cant unban because he gave to another person 3 Days band instead of 8 so he have to do the same with me ( I dont even know who is this person and what he did)
so this admin cannot make decisions  and I think that I deserved unban
He also claims that "he was there and asked me to stop" even though he did not bring me evidence and 10 people shouted at the same time..
he stood aside and looked instead to help us. It was easier for him to wait and let me and other people ban
In my opinion the conduct is inappropriate and does not deserve to remain on the staff !

(5) What Rank are they? (Find this here) - Hogwarts Moderator (Trial)

(6) Evidence. (Must be provided: BAN MESSAGES ARE NOT EVIDENCE) - 
First : https://prnt.sc/200tzn0
Second: https://prnt.sc/200tzr1
Third : https://prnt.sc/200u0kp (High staff member told him and also other people and he still decide to punish me like he punished another person that I don't even know)

To sum up: I hope you make your considerations, if he fails to deal with people stuck in the door then I do not know how you will trust him to hold out later.

#2
This whole situation is just plain stupid and has spiralled from players not being trusted to have the spell descendio; and then using said spell to get players stuck (which is against rule 10 btw; if this is you be very careful at this point rule 10 bans escalate quickly). 

On one hand I can understand why John would ban for the excessive amounts of kills to get players unstuck as typically this is a staff issue to deal with and just to get you unstuck. But as you said he wasn’t present and wasn’t getting you unstuck so to an extent you’re in the right to get people out and perhaps the ban shouldn’t have been so long.

On the other hand; You were simply getting people unstuck and weren’t maliciously ruining others rp experiences - though ofcourse if there is sufficient evidence and proof that he was there watching and essentially “baiting” to ban by just watching and letting you kill so he could ban for longer this could be hugely detrimental to him and his position. Things seemed to have gotten wild last night. 

Overall Hogsmeade is being ruined by only a small amount of players and it’s resulted in many different players being banned due to these players ruining it for others. 

Until further evidence is provided on perhaps him just watching; or from his point then I will be neutral on this; I wasn’t there to see anything and the messages provided aren’t really substantial evidence imo.
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#3
I personally think the ban, the ban length and the fact you weren't fully unbanned is completely ridiculous.
However, I feel like this staff report is a complete reach and it does not prove much, if anything.
The decision, while blatantly poor imo, was valid and it does not constitute any punishment placed on John.

With that being said though, John was not ready to pass trial, from what I have seen from him he needs to be spoken to on several things. Mainly his ban lengths and how he handles sits.

+1 for John to be spoken to about the above
-1 for any sort of punishment
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#4
I agree with Joe

If its true what you said 3-4 minutes is a long time to be stuck with staff online and if thats the only option to carry on enjoying the server, I dont see why that meant a ban 

Seems like a lack of communication and consideration in the sit about the reason you RDMd

+1 for John to be spoken to

-1 for punishment
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#5
I also agree with Joe 

I was there watching the whole thing coz ngl I found it hilarious. John did at one point show up but just stood there and didn’t bring anybody to him, so I feel that the killings were entirely justified as you and another player that made an appeal had only that way to get free.
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#6
Guys tnx for the support from all of u ❤
But the higher staff maybe can unban me ?  or just john can decide ?
Because in my opinion it's not fair that I should now have to sit in the ban...

#7
So, let me first say that I appreciate you making a staff report as it was myself who asked you to reach out to the staff manager regarding this situation if you did not agree with my decision on your ban appeal

I will start off by saying that yesterday I was the only staff member online for several hours and I had to deal with different staff sits and I received messages in admin chat from a player saying that people were stuck to which I almost immediately teleported there and I indeed saw players stuck in the "Lodge" classroom.

When I saw this, I used voice chat to tell whoever was doing that to stop (the rdming part) and then I saw in the top right corner of my screen that you were rdming fellow players, I teleported myself to the staff sit room and I brought you to the staff sit room and froze you.

I will admit that perhaps you and other players did not hear me saying for you guys to stop doing whatever you were doing, because many people were speaking at the same time, but I did say in voice chat for you to stop.

I explained to you in the sit than even if other players get you guys stuck that you cannot be rdming fellow players even though I understood the frustration and that unfortunately I would have to issue you with a ban of 8x days (1week 1 day) for Mass RDM, but I told you you could do a ban appeal and I did consider the ban appeal.

Regarding the ban appeal, even if several players say "+1 for unban" it is up to the staff member to decide what they want to do (reduce or unban the player). I decided to go with a significant reduction because it would not be fair to keep you banned for 8x days especially because you were apologetic in the ban appeal and you also reached over to me on discord and you were apologetic at the beginning.

I told you that the other player also mass RDMed and it was a similar situation because he was also stuck in the door.

I tried to find out the players who were making you guys stuck but I could not find it.

When I brought you into the sit, I also checked the console logs to see the total numbers of players you had rdmed.

I decided to reduce your ban appeal and not straight unban you because I feel that a player who mass RDMs need to sit a couple of days to realize what they did wrong, and not as a manner of punishment towards the player. I only ban players when either the server is in absolute chaos as it was or when the player in question has NITRP.

Regarding your comment on the staff report stating I do not deserve to be a moderator, let me tell you this: I worked hard for 2x years to deserve this position, and at times I am the only staff member online on the server, I love the server and I tried my best to diffuse the situation, I even spoke with you in the staff sit and I apologized to you for having to ban you since I realize it was not your fault 100 per cent but I still had to issue a fair punishment.

I always listen to players, to the context and I always ask players to make a ban appeal if they happen to be banned because I actually read the ban appeals and you reached out to me over on discord and you told me you loved the server and therefore I decided to greatly reduce the ban length.

With this being said, I say thank you again for making this staff report

@@DIMA As I was the only staff member online, when I saw players mass RDMing my first instinct was to deal with the mass RDM situation and then go ahead and unstuck any players who were still stuck. When I had you in the staff sit room, I was also paying attention to the top right corner of my screen for any possible rdming going on and to /ooc chat (as some players prefer to not use /ooc chat) and to the admin chat in case any players were telling me they were stuck or being rdmed, which I did not receive any more messages in admin chat after I brought you into the sit and froze you instantly.

And I explained before, after I brought you the rdming stopped, I froze you while you were in the staff sit with a staff command, explained the situation,distributed fair punishment and before that I told you you could do a ban appeal and explained to you the rule regarding rdm. 

At the end of the day, you broke rules, and I did my job as a staff member to prevent other players from getting rdmed.

When a staff member is not answering staff tickets it is not because staff are ignoring players but instead because the server was in chaos and a lot of rule breaking was going on at the same time and when I received a report in admin chat (from a player I cannot say his/her ingame name) I teleported to you, saw you rdming people while you guys were stuck, teleported away and you were still rdming people before I brought you to the staff sit, froze you and then proceeded to do the rest while always maintaining a professional posture

Note: When you and the other player were banned, the server was way more calm and no more mass RDM happened, the only other thing that happened was mass RDA and the player was sanctioned due to it. Any other players who got stuck, I force arrested them

This is important to note again: @@DIMA I gave you a warning to stop as did other players, next time I will type in chat in /y range for you to stop mass rdming, but the warning was given, however this is a lesson for the future: to type warnings in chat also.

The only staff online was me, myself, so I did get other player unstuck after dealing with the mass rdming situation at hand. If more staff was online I would for sure have the assistance to get everyone unstuck first before dealing with the mass rdming first.

Also, @@DIMA I ask you to stop antagonizing me in the discord pms/dms. If you want to make a staff report, it is your every right to do so, but dont antagonize me in the discord.

Edit: @@Terrance This staff report is about a completely different situation, the situation you are referring to is an harassment situation and you and another player (that I dont need to specify who in here) were harassing another player even after I asked to stop you both to stop following him around, calling him insults, and calling him a snitch if he reported something to me (the staff member that was online). Freespelling is not harassment but doing things others did in the past is straight harassment in your part and in the part of the other player who was harassing the other player. You were banned for 1x week while being aware that you were breaking the rules in the first place. 

In regards to you saying that I pulled you and another player for freespelling, was not for "freespelling" but instead for "harassment". And you saying that I pulled you before I dealt with the mass RDMing situation is simply not true.

I will repeat this: a verbal warning was given, the player did not hear it, I followed the guidelines when dealing with mass RDMing situations, tried to diffuse the situation, explained the rule, brought the player into a staff sit, explained why the player was banned, I respected every guideline. The lesson I learn for the future is to also give either a warning for the player to stop either in /pms or in /y range to make sure the player is aware.

@@DIMA was also sending me messages over on discord antagonizing me even after making this staff report and the evidence will be sent to the staff manager.

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(11-18-2021, 12:33 PM)John Wave Wrote: So, let me first say that I appreciate you making a staff report as it was myself who asked you to reach out to the staff manager regarding this situation if you did not agree with my decision on your ban appeal

I will start off by saying that yesterday I was the only staff member online for several hours and I had to deal with different staff sits and I received messages in admin chat from a player saying that people were stuck to which I almost immediately teleported there and I indeed saw players stuck in the "Lodge" classroom.

When I saw this, I used voice chat to tell whoever was doing that to stop (the rdming part) and then I saw in the top right corner of my screen that you were rdming fellow players, I teleported myself to the staff sit room and I brought you to the staff sit room and froze you.

I will admit that perhaps you and other players did not hear me saying for you guys to stop doing whatever you were doing, because many people were speaking at the same time, but I did say in voice chat for you to stop.

I explained to you in the sit than even if other players get you guys stuck that you cannot be rdming fellow players even though I understood the frustration and that unfortunately I would have to issue you with a ban of 8x days (1week 1 day) for Mass RDM, but I told you you could do a ban appeal and I did consider the ban appeal.

Regarding the ban appeal, even if several players say "+1 for unban" it is up to the staff member to decide what they want to do (reduce or unban the player). I decided to go with a significant reduction because it would not be fair to keep you banned for 8x days especially because you were apologetic in the ban appeal and you also reached over to me on discord and you were apologetic at the beginning.

I told you that the other player also mass RDMed and it was a similar situation because he was also stuck in the door.

I tried to find out the players who were making you guys stuck but I could not find it.

When I brought you into the sit, I also checked the console logs to see the total numbers of players you had rdmed.

I decided to reduce your ban appeal and not straight unban you because I feel that a player who mass RDMs need to sit a couple of days to realize what they did wrong, and not as a manner of punishment towards the player. I only ban players when either the server is in absolute chaos as it was or when the player in question has NITRP.

Regarding your comment on the staff report stating I do not deserve to be a moderator, let me tell you this: I worked hard for 2x years to deserve this position, and at times I am the only staff member online on the server, I love the server and I tried my best to diffuse the situation, I even spoke with you in the staff sit and I apologized to you for having to ban you since I realize it was not your fault 100 per cent but I still had to issue a fair punishment.

I always listen to players, to the context and I always ask players to make a ban appeal if they happen to be banned because I actually read the ban appeals and you reached out to me over on discord and you told me you loved the server and therefore I decided to greatly reduce the ban length.

With this being said, I say thank you again for making this staff report

You said " feel that a player who mass RDMs need to sit a couple of days "
Its looks like you think that I went in the school and just killed people... I just helped to the stuck people, the thing that YOU AS AN ADMIN HAD TO DO, IT WAS YOUR JOB TO HELP THEM !

(11-18-2021, 12:33 PM)John Wave Wrote: So, let me first say that I appreciate you making a staff report as it was myself who asked you to reach out to the staff manager regarding this situation if you did not agree with my decision on your ban appeal

I will start off by saying that yesterday I was the only staff member online for several hours and I had to deal with different staff sits and I received messages in admin chat from a player saying that people were stuck to which I almost immediately teleported there and I indeed saw players stuck in the "Lodge" classroom.

When I saw this, I used voice chat to tell whoever was doing that to stop (the rdming part) and then I saw in the top right corner of my screen that you were rdming fellow players, I teleported myself to the staff sit room and I brought you to the staff sit room and froze you.

I will admit that perhaps you and other players did not hear me saying for you guys to stop doing whatever you were doing, because many people were speaking at the same time, but I did say in voice chat for you to stop.

I explained to you in the sit than even if other players get you guys stuck that you cannot be rdming fellow players even though I understood the frustration and that unfortunately I would have to issue you with a ban of 8x days (1week 1 day) for Mass RDM, but I told you you could do a ban appeal and I did consider the ban appeal.

Regarding the ban appeal, even if several players say "+1 for unban" it is up to the staff member to decide what they want to do (reduce or unban the player). I decided to go with a significant reduction because it would not be fair to keep you banned for 8x days especially because you were apologetic in the ban appeal and you also reached over to me on discord and you were apologetic at the beginning.

I told you that the other player also mass RDMed and it was a similar situation because he was also stuck in the door.

I tried to find out the players who were making you guys stuck but I could not find it.

When I brought you into the sit, I also checked the console logs to see the total numbers of players you had rdmed.

I decided to reduce your ban appeal and not straight unban you because I feel that a player who mass RDMs need to sit a couple of days to realize what they did wrong, and not as a manner of punishment towards the player. I only ban players when either the server is in absolute chaos as it was or when the player in question has NITRP.

Regarding your comment on the staff report stating I do not deserve to be a moderator, let me tell you this: I worked hard for 2x years to deserve this position, and at times I am the only staff member online on the server, I love the server and I tried my best to diffuse the situation, I even spoke with you in the staff sit and I apologized to you for having to ban you since I realize it was not your fault 100 per cent but I still had to issue a fair punishment.

I always listen to players, to the context and I always ask players to make a ban appeal if they happen to be banned because I actually read the ban appeals and you reached out to me over on discord and you told me you loved the server and therefore I decided to greatly reduce the ban length.

With this being said, I say thank you again for making this staff report

@@DIMA As I was the only staff member online, when I saw players mass RDMing my first instinct was to deal with the mass RDM situation and then go ahead and unstuck any players who were still stuck. When I had you in the staff sit room, I was also paying attention to admin chat in case any players were telling me they were stuck or being rdmed, which I did not receive any more messages in admin chat after I brought you into the sit and froze you instantly

WOW YOU SO SMART !
THERE WAS NO REPOETS AFTER MY BAN BECAUSE I HELPED THEM AND NOBODY WAS STUCK AFTER I KILLED THEM

#9
First off, u need to relax lol. There’s no need to get so upset about a gmod rp server. 

Second of all, I agree with what has been said. There’s really no point to this report, if you wanted to get unbanned you should settle that with either John personally, or via appeal. But imo this was a pointless ban, I mean I get staff are busy but if there were enough on, someone should’ve been able to get y’all unstuck. (Take that w a grain of salt, idk what was going on behind the scenes but that’s just what it seems like.) 

Idk I don’t rlly think John should’ve banned you, but I am confused as to if he gave you a warning first. If you didn’t receive a warning then I think you should be unbanned, but if you did then I think you should wait it out.

On phone writing quick pls don’t judge

-1 for demotion or suspension (this doesn’t warrant a removal whatsoever imo) 
+1 for a talking to or an unban?

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#10
(11-18-2021, 01:25 PM)Lydia Wrote: First off, u need to relax lol. There’s no need to get so upset about a gmod rp server. 

Second of all, I agree with what has been said. There’s really no point to this report, if you wanted to get unbanned you should settle that with either John personally, or via appeal. But imo this was a pointless ban, I mean I get staff are busy but if there were enough on, someone should’ve been able to get y’all unstuck. (Take that w a grain of salt, idk what was going on behind the scenes but that’s just what it seems like.) 

Idk I don’t rlly think John should’ve banned you, but I am confused as to if he gave you a warning first. If you didn’t receive a warning then I think you should be unbanned, but if you did then I think you should wait it out.

On phone writing quick pls don’t judge

-1 for demotion or suspension (this doesn’t warrant a removal whatsoever imo) 
+1 for a talking to or an unban?

The problem is that I dont got a warning before, and he dont show the "record"


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