Admin issue

(1) What is your in-game name? - john spook

(2) What is your steam ID (including any banned alt accounts)? - Steam ID: 76561198069094982

(3) What is the name of Admin/Staff who banned you? - @@Krepsie

(4) How long were you banned for? - 3 weeks

(5) Have you been banned on any SBS server before? If so, approximately how many times? - 2

(6) Have you been banned within the last week? - yes

(7) Why were you banned in this instance? (Explain in Detail) - pulled for name i had since october.

(8) Do you think you deserved the ban? - no

(9) Why should you be unbanned? - because, I changed it and was allowed to play by another admin/moderator. but the admin/moderator who banned me has thought it otherwise and didnt care that it was changed. I was targeted instantly when I got on, and was harassed two times before it and complied. this admin who banned me has been at me for many things and wont listen and intends to gag me and force me to do what ever he says without my opinion.

(10) Have you learned your lesson from this ban? - no, the lesson was idiotic if there was one. my name was allowed for months, and they wanted me to change it because they are trying to remove me from the server for fun.

(11) Provide a Screenshot of the message that appears when you try to join the server: -

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what was your name???

edit - nvm im actually dumb
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idk man hope krepsie did a warmup before that long stretch

+1 if your name was just john spook
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Based on what I've heard, you were allowed that name as long as you didn't
reference it in a certain way because "spook" is known to be a type of racial slur.
Considering that you got banned for it I'm assuming you did something along the
lines of that. I'll wait for Krepsie to clarify what happened before I vote.

Edit: After seeing the clip that Chris has posted, my vote is:
-1 for reduction | -1 for unban | -1 for name to be allowed
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I noticed your name in the appeal before even reading the reason why you were banned and thought ... wait. wtf?

Just because the name was not noticed/punished previously doesn't really excuse the request to have it changed. 

You can always appeal names Here 

"Spook" is a well known racial slur against black people. I honestly would've likely pulled for the same thing had I noticed it

Now a warning would've probably been better than a ban unless if you refused to change and were given chances to 

or asked to change it or receive a ban. But depending how Krepsie handled it.. depends on my vote

+1 for unban/reduction (If you were not properly warned)

Neutral to -1 for Unban (If you were asked to change and did not) Neutral to +1 for reduction (If you were asked to change and did not) 
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Just to clarify something real quick. You are correct, you originally were permitted the name "John Spook". Although spook can be seen as a hatespeech term, I and a few other staff members felt it might have been a bit of a stretch. Especially because you made it during the month of October, and we felt that it meant something similar to "spooky". Recently, you started sending other players to detention for "hatespeech", when they said YOUR name. To quote the video exactly, someone said "John Spook", to which you said "Dont say that word" and arrested them for it. That is why Boe and I decided to disallow the name, as you were very clearly using it as a hatespeech term, and even then using it to find ways to arrest people. Krepsie mentions that you weren't letting him explain in the sit in the ban message, this is the explanation you would have received. Ban length can be argued if need be. 

No vote


(12-27-2021, 10:04 PM)blitz_boy95 Wrote: as stated, i changed it twice. he was not ok with the changes even though the other admin was. its not the fact i didnt comply or the fact i said anything about my last name being hate speech. another student said "whats up ya spook" and i said dont say that like that and got pulled and was asked to change to avoid that situation entirely. the way He asked me to change it was not right at all especially if it was noted i changed it in my "file" from other said admin.

This is not true. This is exactly how it went per the video we recieved.

Player: ey yo isn't that John Spook, the one that got warned?

You: Dont say that word!

Player: What do you mean dont say that word? John spook?

You: Thats a bad word!

And then you arrest them. 

Edit 2: in response to @@Mister Meeseeks The situation I am referencing, happened a few days before the situation krepsie is referencing. We have gotten permission to post the clip of the RDA from the reporter, which Chris should be posting soon. 
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Hello John, I would like to mention what I know.

So you were playing as a prefect and every time someone said your name you would arrest them for hatespeech. Initially none of us had an issue with your name, though we knew the slight meaning behind it. Our main issue was you abusing it. 
Spook is related to some hatespeech, but is not a well-known hatespeech word that we kind of let it slide. 
Since you were abusing it and using it to your advantage you got your punishment. We had gotten evidence that this is in fact what happened.

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as stated, i changed it twice. he was not ok with the changes even though the other admin was. its not the fact i didnt comply or the fact i said anything about my last name being hate speech. another student said "whats up ya spook" and i said dont say that like that and got pulled and was asked to change to avoid that situation entirely. the way He asked me to change it was not right at all especially if it was noted i changed it in my "file" from other said admin.

I had stated and reiterated in staff chat many times to get this name addressed when I was still staff. This needed to be taken care of, and never was with multiple disciplinary online who probably saw "Spook" as being fine. No one seemed to care during Halloween when you had it. Now that it's not Halloween, you are getting banned for the name.

+1 to unban and reminder to staff of this incident, and to handle sits like this more seriously when GMs notify (To reiterate, I'm not commenting on Krepsie, but rather there needs to be reenforcement to other staff to be more prompt in the future). Staff had literally no problem with you having the name during Halloween when it was reported.

+1 to you re-wording your ban appeal, it's very mis-leading with the added context from staff.

+1 to making you do a name appeal.

neutral to -1 for unban/reduction at this point. RDA'ing people for saying your hatespeech name? cmon. (again, i'm being misled by staff comments that are all over the place)

I would talk with the player and have someone free up the name, if he accepts he can't have the name or any variation and if caught on server with it the ban will be re-issued, then unban him after the name is freed up by a gm/admin. If he refuses to do so, then leave the ban as-is. No need to wait the 24hrs, this appeal can be done in private/dms.

(12-27-2021, 10:41 PM)blitz_boy95 Wrote: I'm concerned on how easy everyone is to try and focus on a issue that's been dealt with and bring it up into another issue that's not been dealt with. then try to use it as argument to keep them banned for a reason unrelated.

this statement gives me deja vu from walden's appeal lol
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Hello John Thank You For Making An Appeal. 

So @@Boe Aeternalis-Demotiono had informed staff about your name being in relation to Hate-speech and to pull you if you have it. At the time your name was John Spook. During the time I was on I had asked @@Chris Kim about your name which during the time I was on it was John Spooc. I went ahead and pulled you into the sit room and told you the reason for me bringing you in was your name. You started to cut me off and was shouting how you were being targeted all the time by other staff, including me. It was actually the first time I had pulled you and warned you for something for over a month. I remember you being very belligerent during the sit and I was trying to explain your name and have you change it, but each time I tried to talk, you raised your voice and talked over me to the point where I had to gag you in order to explain the situation. Once I gagged you, you disconnected from the server hence for the ban that I issued. 

If you would've allowed me to explain the situation, I would've had you change your name and issue a warning for Hate-Speech in the Name, however, you disconnected. During the time you were informed by staff that your last name "Spook" wasn't allowed, you then changed it to Spooc. There may have been a staff member or two that had allowed the name, however with me that name sounds too similar to the last name you weren't supposed to have. When I was going to have you change your name I was going to inform you that you may make a name appeal on the forums, however all of this stuff that I was going to explain to you I never got the chance to because again your behavior was very chaotic. 

The main reason for the 3 weeks was due to you leaving to avoid punishment and the hate-speech which was in your name. I'll leave this open for community feedback for 24 hours before I make my decision. 
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