Reporting my ban as a staff decision.

#1
(1) What is your name? - Fridge Kinder-Bueno 

(2) What is their name? - This is towards my ban and the staff who thought I should be banned ( Although the appeal was accepted well reduced I kinda wanna stand my ground on this one tbh, and get the community's feedback, I understand this will probably get deleted however I think it will be good for staff to see.

(3) What is their SteamID? - Unknown.

(4) What did they do wrong? - Staff choice to ban me.



(6) Evidence. (Must be provided: BAN MESSAGES ARE NOT EVIDENCE) - Okay so first off all my ban appeal. 

(1) What is your in-game name? - Fridge Kinder-Bueno


(2) What is your steam ID (including any banned alt accounts)? - STEAM_0:1:186583583

(3) What is the name of Admin/Staff who banned you? - Krespie

(4) How long were you banned for? - 24hr

(5) Have you been banned on any SBS server before? If so, approximately how many times? - 1 time I believe for one day.

(6) Have you been banned within the last week? - No

(7) Why were you banned in this instance? (Explain in Detail) - A kid came up to me harassing me and he was warned for mass RDA because he kept jailing me, Then he was asking me to make my steam public and asking me where my favourite place to go was, saying he was coming for me, to which I saved and sent to staff, Following that he was pulled 2 more times for keep coming up to me in-game, then he kept threatening me so I kicked off and that can be seen in the video https://medal.tv/games/garrys-mod/clips/...c5ODcwMTMs - He threatened me with a bucket of acid and other shit, Yes i was extremely riled up but at this point I believe anyone would be. ( Bare in mind the video was after screen shots of him already threatening me and shit, so i was riled up at the point of the video as i was worried for the safety of myself and my close ones, so i got defensive.  

(8) Do you think you deserved the ban? - Not really. considering he started this entire thing and started with the threats.

(9) Why should you be unbanned? - Because if this happens again I will mute my mic n just record it.

(10) Have you learned your lesson from this ban? - Yes.

(11) Provide a Screenshot of the message that appears when you try to join the server: - 

Cant screen shot it.

Second of all - I believe this was poorly handled 

Staff appear to have just gone off the video during my ban appeal, However as stated there was more that happened before this, This person was coming up to me and arresting me loads randomly ( Krepsie ) warned him for this, after this he started messaging me the following. This is someone threating me In real life Not Garry's mod Real life, i kept my cool and reported at the start all the harassment and what not, However he got to me eventually. 

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Consider the fact this was all before how I behaved in the video.

This person came at me for before the video in multiple ways, Harassing me and arresting me with his friend who I believe are the same guys who were banned who came after me and freezer. 

 He also sent me a private message VIA the forums just after my appeal. 
He threatened to come to my house asking for my information to be public to find me, threating to bring fucking acid, Yes in the video I was riled up and yes I acted on impulse but who fucking wouldn't at this point, I apologised to Krepsie personally as I didn't see his message about not banning me, and just saying it to keep the other kid happy, However I ended up being banned anyway? Most the server was spamming freefridge and saying it was unfair and I believe it was. Considering I wasn't going to be banned at the start, I don't understand why I was banned at all? For defending myself and for snapping back? can i even really be blamed for that?

PLEASE take time to read all of this and if more details are wanted message me on disc.

I should really have been banned at all. and i think krepsie agrees considering he was only saying it at the start, please let people reply so you can see everyone's opinions.

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Just to add, He has also made a account on here or already had one, to send this, ( After both of our bans ) Have now blocked him but as you can see he has continued.
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#2
First and foremost, both bans were clearly deserved. The thing I'm more concerned about is staff's complete inability to think for themselves. Stop getting a group vote on every fucking little thing when half of the staff team have brains made out of swiss cheese. As Cofo said, stop with the hive mind mentality. It is an ever growing problem and just further depletes the already tiny amount of brain cells that this think tank has at their disposal. 

Learn to have confidence in yourselves and other staff.

-1 for anything besides Pierre getting rid of group votes

Edit: Then if it wasn't a group vote then what is this report even for? Krepsie being easily influenced by fellow staff? Jfc this report seemingly serves no purpose. Group votes are dumb but if one did not happen then there's just nothing here.

#3
Maybe if you didnt give such a humorous reaction to the most minuscule things you wouldnt be roped up in situations like this, YOU started all of this by threatening us with ur arrest baton before we were even breaking any rules. No wonder your staff application got denied, you would have such a power trip. Shush. 


- SG

#4
I want to clarify, Krepsie did come to the team to get opinions about the situation
but the staff team did not make the decision, nor did we have a vote. that solely
was Krepsie's decision. 
Did the opinions have in impact on his decision, probably. 

What really concerned me with this was I knew something must of happened to
have Fridge pop off like that and I wish more information was provided about it
during the discussion and I knew other staff were confused or taking what we
have seen (in the video) out of context. I personally don't feel like Fridge needed
to be banned for this after talking to him personally about the events that lead up to this. 


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(01-12-2022, 06:53 PM)SouljahWitch Wrote: Maybe if you didnt give such a humorous reaction to the most minuscule things you wouldnt be roped up in situations like this, YOU started all of this by threatening us with ur arrest baton before we were even breaking any rules. No wonder your staff application got denied, you would have such a power trip. Shush. 


- SG


So being told you're going to go to detention if you keep breaking rules somehow equates to threatening to throw acid in someone's face IRL how exactly?
It isn't funny to make threats like that and it speaks volumes about who you are as a person if you get that triggered over a red stick on Garry's Mod.

My entire problem with how this situation was handled is what Krepsie said.
First they both were getting banned, he bans the first kid for 24 hours, then proceeds to say Fridge WILL NOT BE GETTING BANNED.
Shortly followed by Fridge being banned?
That makes no fucking sense, each staff member IMO needs to be capable of making their own decision, not asking every other staff member for a say in whether or not you should ban someone, if you can't come to that conclusion yourself, then don't be staff, your decisions don't need verification by anyone else, it's up to you and your discretion, it shows that even after how ever long you've been staff for now, that you are incapable of making up your own mind and honestly should be a trial moderator once more, this doesn't just pertain to Krepsie, but ANY other staff member that does this, you should be confident in your own decision making and not relying on others to validate a ban length of 24 hours.
On top of this, if you knew you were going to end up punishing Fridge, then don't return him from the sit, as it gives the impression there will be no punishment, keep them in the sit room and don't return them, figure out if punishment is needed and proceed from there.

I don't think punishment is needed for Krepsie or the staff team in general.
But being able to make your own decisions is a must IMO for any staff member.

Overall -1 on this report.
+1 for this to be looked at as feedback for the team.
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#6
Hi. I gave Krepsie the suggestion to maybe see what the rest of the team had to say about this because we thought that this could potentially become a permanent ban situation since IRL threats were being thrown in OOC. Suggestions and opinions were clearly given, but Krepsie did the right thing to deal with the situation by himself but with some feedback from the rest of the team involved. There's nothing wrong with taking in opinions and rethink about how you should deal with a situation. We're a team after all we don't have to always work solo. These are not everyday situations and not every staff is fully experienced behind that, myself included.

About the situation, I 100% believe that both players deserved their bans. You both instigated drama, even after Krepsie asked you both to stop in OOC. Both players added fuel to the fire, and every comment sent only made it worse for yourselves. Do I personally agree with the ban lengths? Not really. Judging by the screenshot shared I believe that Eddie was definitely looking to do some harm to Fridge.

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#7
I’m a bit confused about the group vote thing being brought up by some? It’s either just information being passed down the line that’s been slightly distorted or because Krepsie had put “staff decision” in the ban message. Krepsie had brought this issue up in open questions, asking staff to give their opinions on the situation as he was conflicted. This is a pretty common thing to do and isn’t bad at all. Getting opinions from others when unsure is something that should never be looked down upon, whether the staff member is new or old. At no point was a group vote enacted to decide Fridge or Eddie’s fate, merely feedback from ~8 staff that saw it was given. I weighed in on the situation, saying that both should receive a short ban, which is what Krepsie ended up deciding to do.

This brings me to the report, which you are reporting about the ban it seems. Krepsie could have changed his mind midway through the sit or been influenced by others weighing in after asking for feedback. It’s in his control whether or not he decides to take feedback that he asked for, it’s not a requirement to accept nor deny it so that was up to him. It's not a wise idea for staff to tell players that they won’t be getting banned if they are conflicted enough to be asking for the opinions of others, however, that isn’t here nor there since as far as I can see there’s no evidence of Krepsie doing that, and even if there was all I would ask is he take this as a learning experience.

Both bans are valid, it doesn't matter who starts it as you both partook in it. When you both are engaging in disrespect/drama, continue after being pulled into a sit, try to loophole getting gagged by bringing it back to ooc, you get banned/kicked/warned. You 100% deserved the ban dude, saying stuff like “want my fucking address come at me pussy” is completely inappropriate for the server. Maybe some people saying he shouldn’t have been banned or that the other guy is solely at fault missed that? Regardless…

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