Apparate With A Snatch Re-enable

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(1) What is your In-game name & Steam ID? - Edgar Nova

(1a) Have you read through the Common Suggestions and Answers post? - As always, yes.

(2) What is your suggestion? - Re-enable the ability to apparate while a rope is attached to you.

(3) What made you feel that this change was necessary or would make a great addition? - Since it has been disabled the grand past time, at least one of my past times, of up upping people to their death has been taken away. Im not saying allow apparate while going to the graveyard, just enable the ability to apparate with a rope attached to you

(4) What could be possible negatives if your suggestion were to be added? - People apparating their snatch to the GY but even before it was disabled that was an extremely rare occurrence so its a super small negative.
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+1 because of the issue that’s been happening recently where you can’t apparate or carpe even when you don’t have an active snatch. Only way to fix so far is retry.
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Unfortunately, as much fun as going 'up up' is, it's not appropriate.

The issue is that when newer players see older players doing these kind of things, they take it as something they can do. This means that a plethora of people get pinned to the skybox because they can just apparate up there and abuse it. I can understand using apparate as a means of transport, but, I said this a very very very long time ago (Back on the old map), Apparating with a rope doesn't make any lore sense, as the rope would snap when you begin apparating.

I stand by having fun in the server, and sometimes updates make it harder to have fun, but at the end of the day, ensuring that we don't have players abusing these systems is far more important than the fun we can have. I know that a lot of this falls under 'common sense read the rules' type situations, but I suppose if these mechanics are going to be implemented we want to have a stricter, less fun form of roleplay, despite this being a non serious rp server.
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Wouldn't this just make rescuing (at the graveyard, not while someone is being actively snatched) even harder?

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I know that dark forces, much like cavemen gathered around a stingy fire: find joy and amusement by torturing victims in the graveyard.
But, unlike using Wingardium Leviosa to murder your victims whilst they are pinned to a cheque or some other such nonsense:
use of apparition would render it impossible for Aurors to complete a rescue.

(08-16-2019, 10:18 AM)Arthur Dragonfyre Wrote: Also Gina, if I advert that I'm selling someone, I would apparate with him in order to kill him only when no one os about to buy him and I'm tired of it.

If implemented (still not supporting this), I'd recommend clauses also exist to ensure:
-Apparition is not allowed to take too long, and be a 'time stall': just kill the person within a reasonable amount of time.

My concern is dark forces keeping the person in the sky where they cannot be rescued for the full-time they are in cuffs (or until the cuffs break), where they will not be able to be rescued: the excuse they could give if this were to be poorly implemented "Oh I was just trying to kill my snatch".

We wouldn't want to see snatcher-jobs bypassing the rescue-provisions of the Compendium by yeeting their snatch into the air, giving them a 300-second long tour of the airspace around the Forrest or anything like that. 
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Neutral to -1 

Negatives: It would be really easy to get away with a snatch without killing it, and it would just be impossible to kill anyone while they are apparating in the sky.

Positives: I think it would be a good idea to re-enable apparition JUST for torture if that's possible but I'm pretty sure it isn't because you have the snatch, and there's really no way to do that unless you re-enable apparition completely.
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Oh gosh how funny was to apparate in the sky then  land on the ground and see the snatched falling down and die miserably.
The thing that people can't apparate while carrying a snatched to the graveyard or that people cannot bring rescued people back to the castle by using apparition it's already a rule so it will be the same: staff can deal with it.

Also Gina, if I advert that I'm selling someone, I would apparate with him in order to kill him only when no one os about to buy him and I'm tired of it.

Imma go with a +1 for this, please re-enable it.


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(08-16-2019, 08:31 AM)GinaGovernatore Wrote:
Wouldn't this just make rescuing (at the graveyard, not while someone is being actively snatched) even harder?

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I know that dark forces, much like cavemen gathered around a stingy fire: find joy and amusement by torturing victims in the graveyard.
But, unlike using Wingardium Leviosa to murder your victims whilst they are pinned to a cheque or some other such nonsense:
use of apparition would render it impossible for Aurors to complete a rescue.

(08-16-2019, 10:18 AM)Arthur Dragonfyre Wrote: Also Gina, if I advert that I'm selling someone, I would apparate with him in order to kill him only when no one os about to buy him and I'm tired of it.

If implemented (still not supporting this), I'd recommend clauses also exist to ensure:
-Apparition is not allowed to take too long, and be a 'time stall': just kill the person within a reasonable amount of time.

My concern is dark forces keeping the person in the sky where they cannot be rescued for the full-time they are in cuffs (or until the cuffs break), where they will not be able to be rescued: the excuse they could give if this were to be poorly implemented "Oh I was just trying to kill my snatch".

We wouldn't want to see snatcher-jobs bypassing the rescue-provisions of the Compendium by yeeting their snatch into the air, giving them a 300-second long tour of the airspace around the Forrest or anything like that. 

@GinaGovernatore  I'm not sure where this concern is coming from. If you apparate up in the sky with a snatch they'll just die. I can count on less than one hand the amount of calls I had in my two tenures as staff that had anything to do with apparition and a snatch. And every single one of those was someone flying from the school to the GY . Never even heard anyone talk about a call where somebody tried to save and the person separated up and away. Also, if someone does try and rescue and the person apparatus up then the snatch dies. It's no different than when someone tries to save one of my snatches and I just avada the snatch rather than let them live. Even then, people can already keep their snatch for the full 10 minutes without a rescue attempt. It's called not advertising the snatch and then there is no reason the rescuer should be in there unless they saw the person dragged in there. Either way, putting a time limit on it wouldnt bother me. It's kinda just patching a near nonexistent problem though.
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+1 I agree with Sean even though these methods have been mainly been used against me. ):<
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+1 to revert it and just put it in the rules
the new feature that blocks you from using carpe/apparation seems to be causing more problem then it solves. I'm always unable to carpe due to me "having a snatch attached to me" when I actually don't. It's pretty rare when someone actually does apparate with a snatch since only custom snatchers have apparition and cuffs, so odds are pretty slim some noob buys an open whitelist. And you have to be prestige 5 to use carpe, so pretty high chance they are aware of the rule.
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