RE: Ban Appeals

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Can we stop giving people run arounds with ban appeals? Mat's appeals are a good example. In his last appeal, Myranda stated that she wanted him to include that he ALT accounted which in his most recent appeal he included the fact that he alt accounted. Then, it gets denied solely because he didnt go into specific detail of how he did it. What the fuck do you want him to say? Do you want him to walk you through step by step how to create a new steam account, buy GMOD again, and reconnect to the server? How does that change anything. Can we stop expecting appeals to grovel and beg for your almighty mercy? The man has been banned for MONTHS and steadily apologizes and keeps trying to come back. You tell him to include something in his next appeal, he does, and then you say "Oh you didnt do it to exact instructions so therefore you're denied. Ban appeals are for appealing the original ban, which he has done. He included his ALT's STEAMID which is him admitting to ALT'ing just like you asked. What more do you fucking want? Its ridiculous at this point. Let alone the original ban.
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Bruh posting your steamID on an appeal is in no way showing that you're admitting to alt accounting or going over it. "Its ridiculous" that you would think it is lol. You say not to "beg for your almighty mercy" but this isn't Mat's first PERMA ban appeal. If he wants to get unbanned he needs to show that he's a different person no one is asking for anyone to suck up, we just want to see a change. Its obvious that you don't understand why his appeals are getting denied. He was perma banned before, got another perma ban and you just expect staff to let him walk free because he makes a ban appeal not including everything he's done wrong? Hell IMO if you get more than one perma you should probably stay banned. All Myranda asked was for him to include the alt accounting situation, upon why he was originally banned. That's literally it. My comment is in no way meant to be rude or disrespectful, but this "feedback" is just a jab at the staff team for keeping someone banned who doesn't learn. Periodt.
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(05-28-2020, 11:33 PM)Sean Ganon Wrote:
Bruh posting your steamID on an appeal is in no way showing that you're admitting to alt accounting or going over it. "Its ridiculous" that you would think it is lol. You say not to "beg for your almighty mercy" but this isn't Mat's first PERMA ban appeal. If he wants to get unbanned he needs to show that he's a different person no one is asking for anyone to suck up, we just want to see a change. Its obvious that you don't understand why his appeals are getting denied. He was perma banned before, got another perma ban and you just expect staff to let him walk free because he makes a ban appeal not including everything he's done wrong? Hell IMO if you get more than one perma you should probably stay banned. All Myranda asked was for him to include the alt accounting situation, upon why he was originally banned. That's literally it. My comment is in no way meant to be rude or disrespectful, but this "feedback" is just a jab at the staff team for keeping someone banned who doesn't learn. Periodt.

Bruh the format literally says "INCLUDE ID'S OF ANY ALT ACCOUNTS USED". So if there is more than one ID then that means they alt'd. How is that so fucking hard to understand lmao

Also, go ahead and believe this is a jab at the staff team if you want, I like myranda, i think shes good staff, but this situation in itself is just dumb as fuck in MY opinion
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(05-28-2020, 11:35 PM)Edgar Nova Wrote:
(05-28-2020, 11:33 PM)Sean Ganon Wrote:
Bruh posting your steamID on an appeal is in no way showing that you're admitting to alt accounting or going over it. "Its ridiculous" that you would think it is lol. You say not to "beg for your almighty mercy" but this isn't Mat's first PERMA ban appeal. If he wants to get unbanned he needs to show that he's a different person no one is asking for anyone to suck up, we just want to see a change. Its obvious that you don't understand why his appeals are getting denied. He was perma banned before, got another perma ban and you just expect staff to let him walk free because he makes a ban appeal not including everything he's done wrong? Hell IMO if you get more than one perma you should probably stay banned. All Myranda asked was for him to include the alt accounting situation, upon why he was originally banned. That's literally it. My comment is in no way meant to be rude or disrespectful, but this "feedback" is just a jab at the staff team for keeping someone banned who doesn't learn. Periodt.

Bruh the format literally says "INCLUDE ID'S OF ANY ALT ACCOUNTS USED". So if there is more than one ID then that means they alt'd. How is that so fucking hard to understand lmao

Also, go ahead and believe this is a jab at the staff team if you want, I like myranda, i think shes good staff, but this situation in itself is just dumb as fuck in MY opinion

I think the problem is that all he did was put a second ID, which shows that he alted. But we already knew he alted. So telling us what we already know is a bit weird. I'm not Myranda, so IDK why she wants to know why/how he alted, but I imagine it's for a good reason. There were clear directions that he didn't follow. Plus, He's been Perma'd b4. I think he needs to understand that Just bc the community loves them some Mat, doesn't mean he can just do whatever he wants. I do believe, from what I've seen from his latest appeal, that his tone has changed. But all she asked him to do were 2 things, small things. And she also reserves every right to not accept his appeal. Neither you and I can make her release Mat. I think that people are feeling a little bit entitled, he's been perma'd b4 and if it were some lesser know person this anger wouldn't be happening. Although I quoted you, Edgar, I'm not saying you did something bad or have a stupid rational. I just put my thoughts on the whole situation and your response to Sean.

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(05-29-2020, 01:50 AM)Tyrone D Bigeye Wrote:
(05-28-2020, 11:35 PM)Edgar Nova Wrote:
(05-28-2020, 11:33 PM)Sean Ganon Wrote:
Bruh posting your steamID on an appeal is in no way showing that you're admitting to alt accounting or going over it. "Its ridiculous" that you would think it is lol. You say not to "beg for your almighty mercy" but this isn't Mat's first PERMA ban appeal. If he wants to get unbanned he needs to show that he's a different person no one is asking for anyone to suck up, we just want to see a change. Its obvious that you don't understand why his appeals are getting denied. He was perma banned before, got another perma ban and you just expect staff to let him walk free because he makes a ban appeal not including everything he's done wrong? Hell IMO if you get more than one perma you should probably stay banned. All Myranda asked was for him to include the alt accounting situation, upon why he was originally banned. That's literally it. My comment is in no way meant to be rude or disrespectful, but this "feedback" is just a jab at the staff team for keeping someone banned who doesn't learn. Periodt.

Bruh the format literally says "INCLUDE ID'S OF ANY ALT ACCOUNTS USED". So if there is more than one ID then that means they alt'd. How is that so fucking hard to understand lmao

Also, go ahead and believe this is a jab at the staff team if you want, I like myranda, i think shes good staff, but this situation in itself is just dumb as fuck in MY opinion

I think the problem is that all he did was put a second ID, which shows that he alted. But we already knew he alted. So telling us what we already know is a bit weird. I'm not Myranda, so IDK why she wants to know why/how he alted, but I imagine it's for a good reason. There were clear directions that he didn't follow. Plus, He's been Perma'd b4. I think he needs to understand that Just bc the community loves them some Mat, doesn't mean he can just do whatever he wants. I do believe, from what I've seen from his latest appeal, that his tone has changed. But all she asked him to do were 2 things, small things. And she also reserves every right to not accept his appeal. Neither you and I can make her release Mat. I think that people are feeling a little bit entitled, he's been perma'd b4 and if it were some lesser know person this anger wouldn't be happening. Although I quoted you, Edgar, I'm not saying you did something bad or have a stupid rational. I just put my thoughts on the whole situation and your response to Sean.
Theres literally nothing else that can be said though. If somebody alts the reason is fairly obvious, which is they wanted to get around the ban and play on the server. Making somebody write out an already obvious thing is dumb and hinging their entire appeal decision on it is even dumber.
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I'm so happy you said it cause I was about to open up same topic.

I'll start with the line "Beauty Fades, Dumb Is Forever". And to me, this is a perfect example of what's going on in Ban Appeals section, and especially with Mat's appeals.

Ever since I can remember on this forum and this very community there's always mentioned: "We don't target or bias anyone". In this situation, I must strongly disagree because even though I gave Mat -1 under each of his appeals I can see from where he's coming now and that this is genuine change.

In this situation seems like a Staff Team that is involved in his ban is just playing around. Maybe they're ego-driven and need some power to feed it. Maybe they just don't want him as a player because they're scared they won't be able to handle him, or maybe they just don't read and follow funny protocols, or again - maybe, they're just trying to have fun with this. If so - it's not the first time when Staff Members are showing parts of their insecurities, though server, other people are not the form of solving these problems.

@Just Mat Mentioned his ALT account, that's what one of the Mods asked for. Today the topic is closed because he didn't mention something that Mod wanted him to say. - Where is the sense here?

IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO TELL SPECIFIC THINGS THAT YOU JUST HAVE IN MIND - PLEASE PUT THAT INTO BLUEPRINT OF BAN APPEAL.

With Mat - it will be his 3rd round, and probably he'll be rejected again cause in the last appeal he clearly stated that HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY AND HE'S LOST.

Now let's see what Myranda said:

"You didn’t follow everything I asked you to do, so unfortunately I’m going to be denying this appeal. Please try again with everything I asked for next week. " - Myranda Nova-Aeternalis

Would it take you that much of a time to say the things you asked him to do? Or maybe you didn't really read his appeal carefully and just saw the first page without looking at the full conversation in the topic?

Stop playing around with players and spreading this nonsense around the server. Players are not here to read in mind and if you EXPECT players to obey all the rules and always be clean-handed with everything - you should be so, as an example.

1. Write your messages more clearly;
2. Read the whole appeal topics before saying a word;
3. After you're done with your message - READ IT, before you post it and then edit it later;
4. Don't write anything in a rush while driving or being outside your zone of comfort (home) so that you can keep your mind straight;
5. And finally - Biased or not. Target or not - be a Mod. A Staff Member. Someone who's really following what they said in their Apply Form.

So far almost all of you said "Communication/Patience etc." 8/10 9/10 10/10 - So please, show that also in action, not only in your Mod Apply Form.
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in response to the last person.. you say read it but I stopped at “Maybe they're ego-driven and need some power to feed it” 

Damn I’ll take things that don’t happen for 500 Pat.

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Theres a thing to be looked at here. The actual reason for banning then additives to that ban. Somewhere along the line with mat's ban the main reason being rule 2 has since become irrelevant and the alt account is now the main reason as to why he is banned. Hell, the sole reason why I was banned was because I changed my name to Nero Purge and was banned for context however all focus in that ban appeal came to the first name that I had which isnt the reason I received the ban by that staff member thus the appeal was denied (not making excuses just stating facts as they were before anyone comments about it).

What I'm saying is that the intitial reason for the ban has now gone out the window and the focus is on something else entirely now being the alt account. Is it a problem? well yes, it was ban evading however looking at the reason for denying with the alt accounting is some real tedious shit tbh.
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#9
Let's not get toxic here mates,In my opinion it's stupid.I failed to put me ban avoiding under spotlight but i never tried to hide it in my last appeal.As viktorke said in my appeal i did mention it in my respond to Sean and you guys kinda made a big deal out of it.

I don't mind waiting one more week to get unbanned if im really gonna be unbanned after i redo it,but don't make me wait 2 more weeks after you finally accept my ban appeal

To people who say that im expected to be unbanned cause people like me.That is just stupid and if u think that is the relationship i have with people on the server to put it simply you are a fool mate.

To people who think i start all my "free Mat"-Do not attach any association of this to me whatsoever,i have nothing to do with such blasphemy,such ridiculous nonsense.

Im 100% sure Edgar didn't make this post cause he is mad im not unbanned.He is mad that he has to see somebody he knows from the game getting tortured by making appeals for no reason
and if you are unable to see that.Read it again mate.

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(05-28-2020, 11:20 PM)Edgar Nova Wrote: Can we stop giving people run arounds with ban appeals? Mat's appeals are a good example. In his last appeal, Myranda stated that she wanted him to include that he ALT accounted which in his most recent appeal he included the fact that he alt accounted. Then, it gets denied solely because he didnt go into specific detail of how he did it. What the fuck do you want him to say? Do you want him to walk you through step by step how to create a new steam account, buy GMOD again, and reconnect to the server? How does that change anything. Can we stop expecting appeals to grovel and beg for your almighty mercy? The man has been banned for MONTHS and steadily apologizes and keeps trying to come back. You tell him to include something in his next appeal, he does, and then you say "Oh you didnt do it to exact instructions so therefore you're denied. Ban appeals are for appealing the original ban, which he has done. He included his ALT's STEAMID which is him admitting to ALT'ing just like you asked. What more do you fucking want? Its ridiculous at this point. Let alone the original ban.

^^^ This guy is 100% correct and nobody can teII me otherwise, this is just ridicuIous man, honestIy,,,,
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