Jeb Ban Appeal

#1
(1) In-game name: CT 8132 Jeb 

(2) Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:1:75199896

(3) Name of Admin/Staff who banned you: Wukong

(4) Was it a Temp or Permanent Ban: Permanant

(5) Have you been banned on any SBS server before? If so, approximately how many times?: Twice

(6) Have you been banned within the last week? No

(7) Why were you banned in this instance? (Explain in Detail): NO REASON GIVEN. Was banned for 3 days due to demotion, so he started to beat the officer with a stunstick (obviously as a joke). Obviously, this warrants a punishment of some kind, and 3 days was certainly over the top. Though, understandable due to a previous ban, this would increase the sentence given to a 3 day.

(8 ) Do you think you deserved the ban?: No. The 3-day was more than fair, but permanently banning somebody over stunsticking the CO of a battalion is completely absurd.

(9) Why should you be unbanned?: The three-day ban was served. A permanent is not warranted in this situation. It’s his second offense, which grants a harsher punishment of course. But, three strikes and you’re out. Next time is a perma, as long as the reason is actually justified.

(10) Have you learned your lesson from this ban?: No lesson to learn from.

(11) Provide a Screenshot of the message that appears when you try to join the server: https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/u...A91811715/

Explanations: Read this thoroughly and get the point from it. Don’t just skim it, actually read it the entire way through and pay attention to the detail.
The last appeal was closed due to Wukong coming on and stating that it in his opinion it was 100% justified. However, no real reason was given. He also stated that the staff team agrees with him. The issue here is, the staff team shouldn’t be the deciding factor in whether he is unbanned or not, the reason for this being that the staff team personally does not like Mems (a name he used to go by that I’ll use throughout this explanation). This is NOT ME putting words in their mouth, this is me going off what is posted on the appeal. Enders and Sparks voiced their opinions openly, both of which are on the staff team. The most pronounced member of staff that went on it was Comet, who took a more distasteful approach towards explaining his answers. In Sparks’ reply, he says “However, I think you should know that I am not going to change my vote, no matter how good your argument is.”, openly stated that even given any argument that proves innocence, he will not change his mind. Does this not show prejudice towards Mems? The entirety of Sparks’ argument was based purely off of Salt’s reasoning given as the first reply, which was disproven through the replies. Moving onto the “community” section of the replies, it seems that the staff responsible for keeping this ban upheld didn’t even read the entirety of the replies on the post and just looked at the colors to see “oh yeah -1, -1, -1. This is what they want.”. Yeah, there are two pages of them but that’s what happens when no staff member comes on it to discuss it. Taking apart Salt’s reply here, his main point is that he got on his alt at first, which yes is a bannable offense, but not when the staff member responsible for the ban has yet to reply to a post regarding his own ban. Due to this being the case, Mems hopped on to talk to the staff member responsible for banning him and was banned instantly due to the ULX function. This cancels out the reasoning that an alt-account should instantly result in a perma for both accounts since his intent was not to get on and break rules but to literally just talk to the person responsible for banning him. Salt later says that he was “perma'd at first for Mass RDM, got unbanned and got banned again.” While this is true, the permanent ban at first was later lifted a day after, since it originally was supposed to just be a one day ban. The ULX Ban function wasn’t working properly though, so the one day was just that, a one day. The rest of the community gave their -1 responses, but the majority of them came from either no reasoning or Salt’s now faulty reasoning. Enders never gave a reason other than “that’s on you for handling it the wrong way”, which he seems to have misunderstood and not read the previous reply thus invalidating his vote. Comet’s reasoning is also faulty, due to the fact that he’s based it off of the alt-account again. Once again, the alt-account was purely meant to speak with the staff who banned him since he: 1. Couldn’t get on his main account and 2. Didn’t receive a reply on the forums. This reasoning invalidates Comet’s vote. I gave my +1, which has logic behind it because I had actually read the replies. No staff commented on the post and the staff member that handed out the ban, now Wukong, made a mistake in not informing him of any reasons given to further expand upon his ban. Bits threw a -1 out there because of the “reasons stated above”, which were proven faulty, thus invalidating his vote. Sparks’ reply, as said before, is based purely off of Salt’s, which has invalid reasoning behind it, invalidating his vote. Dracul is possibly the only valid -1 on here since his reasoning is actually legitimate. The fact that he got banned on Day 1 is a decent reason here. This brings the tally of votes to a single +1 and a single -1. Looking at the votes, on said posts though and going off of the community as you say, two people agree with my +1 (that’s just going only off of the post saying +1, the others who voted on my other posts defending him would equal 4). Dracul’s -1, however, has no upvotes. So going purely off of the community, this shows that it is in favor of Mems being unbanned looking at the FACTS. It’s the staff team that doesn’t want him unbanned, and last I remembered, the players came first (based off of the staff application format). Upholding the ban purely based off of the faulty reasoning given by the staff and opposing community members is completely unjust. He has already been given roughly three weeks to sit on this, and I don’t believe he should have to wait any longer. If your reasoning just comes down to "We don't like him and don't want him on here." then... I don't even know what to say.

#2
You were already unbanned once, and you somehow screwed that chance up. Not going to argue with your reasoning but I feel that you should of known not to get yourself banned again even if it was a temporary ban for the first time you were banned. 

Also, you didn't stunstick him you arrested him as well as myself.

Your lesson to learn from the ban is fairly clear, don't abuse your power.

You have me on steam, if you have a question message me there.

-1

#3
(12-09-2018, 01:45 PM)Flarp Wrote: You were already unbanned once, and you somehow screwed that chance up. Not going to argue with your reasoning but I feel that you should of known not to get yourself banned again even if it was a temporary ban for the first time you were banned. 

Also, you didn't stunstick him you arrested him as well as myself.

Your lesson to learn from the ban is fairly clear, don't abuse your power.

You have me on steam, if you have a question message me there.

-1

I arrested you because you tazed me, and also the only reason I appealed my ban in the first place is because a lack of communication, which seems to be a recurring theme. Also, so that you dont get confused, the lack of communication is me getting perma banned because temp bans were not working, but I was never told so I assumed I was perma banned.

#4
(12-09-2018, 01:45 PM)Flarp Wrote: You were already unbanned once, and you somehow screwed that chance up. Not going to argue with your reasoning but I feel that you should of known not to get yourself banned again even if it was a temporary ban for the first time you were banned. 

Also, you didn't stunstick him you arrested him as well as myself.

Your lesson to learn from the ban is fairly clear, don't abuse your power.

You have me on steam, if you have a question message me there.

-1

he wasnt unbanned once already, it was a perma that was supposed to be a one day 
you guys blind or something? can you not read????

#5
banned again even if it was a temporary ban for the first time you were banned.

I clearly stated that kek.

I am surely blind and I can not read as you stated.

#6
(12-10-2018, 05:59 PM)Flarp Wrote: banned again even if it was a temporary ban for the first time you were banned.

I clearly stated that kek.

I am surely blind and I can not read as you stated.

sorry man its too loud i cant see, even if it was a temp it was a one day
one day

one day

from a one day to a perma isnt legitimate for what it was over

#7
Alright since this has been a long running thing and nothing has been done about it. The person who banned you was wukong, He had changed the ban from 1 day to a perma on the stance that, you have absolutely no intention to RP whatsoever so he changed it to a perma. While I agree with you that the lack of communication is stupid, and the fact you havent been told anything other than a small forum message. Makes no sense to me on why no one wants to elaborate on the situation.

I'm going to attempt to get wukong to respond onto this post the EXACT reason in his own words you were permad. But, your persistence isnt going unnoticed with the constant appeals and thats good to see that you're trying to make an effort to get back onto the server. Ill see what I can do.
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#8
I am for you being unbanned atm, but it would be your last chance. Any offense after would be a permanent ban. If you were to be unbanned, you would have to have serious intention to RP. Please don't make me regret this decision.

#9
Appeal accepted by Wukong.

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