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Question Joey Von Doom's Racism Ban Appeal
Posted by: Joey - 01-18-2021, 02:42 PM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (39)

Whatever presumptions you have about me and my friends please read before making your decision.

(1) What is your in-game name? - 
Joey Von Doom

(2) What is your steam ID (including any banned alt accounts)? - 

(3) What is the name of Admin/Staff who banned you? - 

(4) How long were you banned for? - 
2 weeks

(5) Have you been banned on any SBS server before? If so, approximately how many times? - 
I have a long history of bans, but as of recently I've been a good boy.  

(6) Have you been banned within the last week? - 

(7) Why were you banned in this instance? (Explain in Detail) -  

I was banned for "Racist, Disrespect"
I am going to tell you a story about my little friend John Dotter,  he was a fourth year walking down the hallways, my good friend Biggie Black decided to snatch him. We took him back to the graveyard, and he immediately started talking about how we are "targeting" and "harassing" him. Keep in mind this is the first time we interacted with him. He started to wild out getting angry, and acting aggro hurling insults at us. So me and my friend Revus start making monkey noises in our mics, really, really fucking loud. Apparently John Dotter and the admins as well think we did this because he was Greek, that there were racist undertones in these actions. I completely reject that observation, and it was purely because, #1 we are fucking stupid and make monkey noises randomly all the time, #2 we viewed him as acting irrationally angry, and stupid kind of like a monkey. I am not aware of monkey being a racial slur towards Mediterranean people, the only race I know that it is inappropriate for are black people, and even then I would argue that there is no possible way for me to determine the color of someone's skin based of their player model. I called him a monkey, because its a common insult we use, when someone says some dumb shit, we call them monkey brain. 

The reason why monkey is a racist term, is because people viewed black people in America as animalistic. The same thing happened in Germany during the holocaust, they referred to Jewish people as "rats" so if I call the wrong person on the server a rat, is it Anti-Semitism? The answer is no, that would be stupid. 

To be labeled a racist, to be told that what I said was racist, is not ok. I didn't know what race this guy was, I thought this dude was Belgium until yesterday.
That is my point of view on the monkey thing, and feel free to ask me questions about my intentions behind my statements because I adamantly stand behind the fact that nothing I said that had any racial undertones. 

To address the "accent mocking thing" he said words weirdly, in the same way if you were to pronounce a word wrong such as saying 
"B-aHH-looms" instead of balloons. I instinctively point that out and repeat it, it wasn't to make fun of him, and I even told him that but sadly he must've cut it out. Just like a lot of things, THERE is a ton of context removed, a TON of evidence that he willingly removed. To make us appear as we were harassing him.  If you are insulting me, saying I was "abused sexually" I reserve the right to make fun of the way you say words. That is how banter works, you can't be like "Oh he say thing me no like" I would like to reiterate I was making fun of the way he said certain words. Like CLEEEP (clip)

That is why I uploaded this video.

This video resulted in John Dotter getting the same length ban as biggy, he actually got less than me. Someone who said "Do you want me to fuck you" "I don't want to fuck your fucking white assholes" which I would argue is more racist then the shit we did. I don't take offense to be referred to as a "White Asshole" but it really does show his intentions to call us names, make us say stuff back, clip out of context, use it as evidence. In the description of this video I labeled and wrote out all the context regarding the situation. Also my mics audio track got fucked.

People imitate my "italian sounding" accent all the time, this isn't racist, this isn't hatespeech. This is generally ok, atleast I thought until yesterday. I would understand if we walked up to John Dotter, started being cunts to him making fun of him for being greek, imitating his accent, and he did completely nothing wrong. You cannot be generally rude to people, and expect them not to make fun of you back, this is banter it always has been banter. If you want me to concede that I can be very disrespectful to people, I definitely can but in this case it isn't just disrespect, I am being characterized as a racist over some uncontroversial remarks, that are being put in this lens of "racism", just because some kid felt it was a racist remark. 

I would even go as far as to say that John Dotter was just here to get us banned, his full intentions were to cause issues, and clip shit out of context.

Also at the end of the video, the last ten minutes, he stands on my head fumosing himself so I would snatch him and he would get "MORE CLEEEPS"

(8) Do you think you deserved the ban? - 
I can see an argument for the disrespect, the racism is a no from me. I go out of my way to not say racist shit to be characterized in this way is frustratingly saddening.

(9) Why should you be unbanned? - 
Shit maybe I don't, I just don't want to be characterized as a racist over some shit that objectively isn't racist.

(10) Have you learned your lesson from this ban? - 
I've learned to record everything, or people will clip shit out of context and create fraudulent accounts of what happened. (Which I think should be like two more weeks for doing after being proved wrong)
I also learned that we should really really have public player reports, because I could've addressed this then. 

(11) Provide a Screenshot of the message that appears when you try to join the server: - 

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Bug Revus
Posted by: revus - 01-18-2021, 02:42 PM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (24)

(1) What is your in-game name? - Revus Von Doom

(2) What is your steam ID (including any banned alt accounts)? - STEAM_0:0:42245637

(3) What is the name of Admin/Staff who banned you? - Ariel

(4) How long were you banned for? - 2 Weeks

(5) Have you been banned on any SBS server before? If so, approximately how many times? - Once previously

(6) Have you been banned within the last week? - No

(7) Why were you banned in this instance? (Explain in Detail) -

The reason listed on the ban is "Racist Disrespect" although I'm not sure how much more detail I can provide here given the fact that the situation has not been explained to me in any capacity by Ariel or any other staff member.
To my understanding a player report was made against Reggie, Joey and Myself by a player we had snatched on more than one occasion. While we had him snatched we would mock him and make loud noises as an attempt to torture him,
There were two things that were labelled as racist during the torture;

1 - Making gorilla noises through the microphone (Just going oooh-oooh ah ah, really loud with the volume turned up)

2- Mocking his accent (The player would frequently mispronounce words and mess up sentences)

The only reason I can see these two things being construed as racist are because the player we had snatched was Greek. As I am Greek myself (my family now lives in australia but we are from Greece) I can add some additional context; Calling someone a gorilla, monkey, ape
or anything similar is NOT a racially loaded term in Greek, it's not a phrase thats frequently used against Greece or Greek people. If I had made the same noises to a player who was black or african-american I would understand a ban completely,
but here it just simply isn't racist and I feel like it misses the mark.

I'd like to address the part about mocking his accent as well; there is nothing inherently racist about mocking someones voice, in this case the player was messing up words quite a bit, so we poked fun at him for it. Nothing about that directly points to his race or ethnicity
as a feature that is being mocked. Sure mocking someone’s voice certainly CAN be racist, but more commonly that not there aren't any racial elements at play and it's just a cheap way to dig at someone, there is A LOT more that needs to go into mocking someones voice for it to
be racist. I speak with a pretty goofy greek-australian accent, if I reported everyone who came up to me and said "crikey mate!" or "oi cunt i'm fuckin australian cunt" would they catch 2 week bans as well? I'd hope not, because that isn't racist in and of itself and it
shouldn't be treated that way.

(8) Do you think you deserved the ban? -

All things considered, I do not believe this ban was deserved. As I stated above I believe the accusations of racism are an incredible stretch. Couple that with the fact that I was never once spoken to or warned about my interactions with this player,
I don't see how an instant 2 week ban is warranted.

There is also one final point I would like to make that I'm sure my friends have made as well. Prior to us snatching him this player would frequently come up to us in game, antagonise, disrespect, freespell and make extremely loaded comments towards us in an attempt to get us
to break the rules so he can clip things out of context and get us in trouble, or at the very least to stop himself from getting in trouble. It's honestly disappointing that this was overlooked and none of us were spoken to prior to receiving the ban. If we had had a chance to
give our side of the story instead of his just being taken at face value I feel like this situation would have been smoothed over with much less trouble.

Spoiler: Video

(9) Why should you be unbanned? - As I've argued above, given the circumstances I feel like a ban just is not warranted and this situation could've been handled far better.

(10) Have you learned your lesson from this ban? - If there's a lesson here I believe its that forum reports need to be made public again or at the very least allow accused players to view their own reports.
The fact that this player was able to manipulate the situation so much that he got out nearly scott free speaks to the lack of transparency and inefficacy of the current state of player reports.

(11) Provide a Screenshot of the message that appears when you try to join the server: - [Image: 4AAu9J4.jpg]


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Wink Biggy Black (The Queen)
Posted by: Reggie Riptide - 01-18-2021, 02:42 PM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (23)

(1) What is your in-game name? - Biggy Black (The Queen)

(2) What is your steam ID (including any banned alt accounts)? - STEAM_0:0:32868593

(3) What is the name of Admin/Staff who banned you? - @Ariel Lionheart

(4) How long were you banned for? - 1 Week

(5) Have you been banned on any SBS server before? If so, approximately how many times? - 1

(6) Have you been banned within the last week? - No

(7) Why were you banned in this instance? (Explain in Detail) - 

I'm not entirely sure the exact reason I was banned because it wasn't really explained.  There was a player report made on the forums against me and two other players.  This person has made claims of harassment for almost a week now.  However, this person goes out of their way to try and be snatched so they can try and play the victim(shown in the video evidence below).  I would like to add before I start, that the player who made the report was also banned for disrespecting us and manipulating video evidence in their favor by clipping things out of context.  Apparently what I was banned for is "racist disrespect" for imitating this players accent by saying "Hello Rrrrevus, nice to see you Rrrrevus" in the the same accent while we had him snatched.  I'm sure I did indeed imitate this person's accent when I said that.  However, I never used any sort of racial context when talking to this player.  For someone to automatically reach for what was said to be "racist" honestly upsets me.  I didn't see it as anything more than banter as the player was also throwing insults my way.  I think he stated that I was making fun of him at one point by imitating his accent, but I didn't think I was obligated to stop since he would banter back.    

I don't feel I ever harassed this person, banter sure, but my interactions with them were mainly through snatching where I would sing The Neverending Story on repeat as torture.  The only interaction I can remember outside of snatching was during Prefect Law when they freespelled a mostro as a prefect and then clipped me arresting them in attempt to make it look like I rda'd them.  I also never considered imitating someone's accent as being overly disrespectful.  I feel like that's a fairly common thing that happens on the server.  I would also like to add that the accent that I imitated is the same accent that I picked up years ago from Hans Brooksen where I roll my r's when speaking.  I'm not trying to deny imitating the player in question here, I'm just stating that this accent has never been an issue or viewed as "racist" before.  I wouldn't have thought imitating an accent would be this big of an issue.

(8) Do you think you deserved the ban? -

I do not, I feel like many factors in play in this situation were overlooked.  This player has been painting themselves out to be a complete victim, he has admitted that he is trying to get us banned.  The fact that this person was banned for manipulating evidence by clipping situations out of context to try and get me banned should be a big red flag.  I feel like someone loses their credibility when they have admitted to having a vendetta.  This player was also banned for the same duration as I was(1 Week) for a multitude of different disrespectful comments.  These included them making an actual racial comment of "Do you want me to fuck you, I don't want to fuck your white asshole" "Are you being abused, sexually, verbally, or physically abused?" "Did your mom pay for your VIP, you still living with your parents boy?" "I think your parents abuse you too much." and many more.  I simply don't understand how me imitating this player's accent is deserving of equal punishment to this amount of disrespect in Ariel's eyes.  I also highly encourage Ariel to show the clip of what got me banned as well, I'd honestly like it to be seen so people can make an informed decision.  It shouldn't be a matter of privacy if we already know who reported us. 

If the main issue lies in the disrespect, then that that would mean I got banned for 1 week for what I would consider mild disrespect.  You can argue the fact that I don't need a warning because I'm 7th Prestige and I know the rules, but like I stated I didn't consider what I was doing was even against the rules.  Even if the person asked me to stop and I didn't, as I stated, I didn't know I was obligated to listen since it was coming from both sides.  I don't think that warrants a 1 week ban without even an opportunity to explain my side.  Especially considering Ariel was already informed previously that this person was clipping things out of context and trying to get us in trouble.  I feel like there were factors in play here that simply weren't taken into consideration when this ban was made.  

Spoiler: Evidence of Disrespect

(9) Why should you be unbanned? - Because I honestly do not feel a ban was necessary at all for me in the situation.  There was definitely never any "racism" involved.  Also, the fact that the other person has been proven in manipulating evidence by clipping situations out of context with the intent to get me banned.

(10) Have you learned your lesson from this ban? - Yes, that forum player reports should not be private.  This situation would have never gotten to this point if I was allowed to explain and give my side of the story.

(11) Provide a Screenshot of the message that appears when you try to join the server: - 

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  Stuck on Starting Lua forever
Posted by: Bert Shoelace - 01-18-2021, 11:58 AM - Forum: Support - Replies (2)

I have been playing on the HWRP server for about 2 weeks now. It is the only server I play on for Gmod.
I play on 64 bit version. After a few days, when I try to load into the server, the following problem happens. My bar at the bottom right of my screen is 100% and it says: Starting Lua. But nothing happens..
I am forever on the loading screen and I never join the server. I have reset my Gmod to factory settings and that fixed it for me. But all my key-binds are reset which is a massive pain..
Right now I can play for one session after reinstalling gmod and when I try to log back in later to the server I have once again the same problem....
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I tried googling it but so far the factory reset is the only option I found.. Do you know of a fix for this? much appreciated in advance for your time
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  Combat dancing.
Posted by: Alex Morningstar - 01-18-2021, 07:28 AM - Forum: Server Suggestions - Replies (14)

**DISCLAIMER: https://starbystargaming.com/showthread?tid=6095

(1) Have you read through the Common Suggestions and Answers post? - Yes

(2) What is your suggestion? - Make combat dancing warnable (FailRP)

(3) What made you feel that this change was necessary or would make a great addition? - Combat dancing fucks with hitboxes, and it turns the MODEL but not CAMERA around so that if you're chasing a snatcher or something they can send a mostro right your way while not facing you.

(4) What could be possible negatives if your suggestion were to be added? - Less fun more realism.

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  Cinder Bungi Ban Appeal
Posted by: Uka Uka - 01-18-2021, 02:37 AM - Forum: Ban Appeals - Replies (6)

(1) What is your in-game name? - Cinder Bungi

(2) What is your steam ID (including any banned alt accounts)? - STEAM_0:1:78249657

(3) What is the name of Admin/Staff who banned you? -@Gwendolyn Rose

(4) How long were you banned for? - 2 Weeks

(5) Have you been banned on any SBS server before? If so, approximately how many times? - No I have not

(6) Have you been banned within the last week? - Within the last seven days yes.

(7) Why were you banned in this instance? (Explain in Detail) - I was banned for the use of slang, and derogatory language as well as falsely releasing students from detention during prefect law.

(8) Do you think you deserved the ban? - I do believe the ban was just. What I did violated these rules. 

(9) Why should you be unbanned? - There is no reason that I should be unbanned other than the fact that I've never been banned previously, and I find this first ban being two weeks to be rather harsh. However understandable given the offence. I'm sincerely sorry for what I did and will make certain it won't happen again.

(10) Have you learned your lesson from this ban? - I have learned my lesson to the fullest extent and will follow these rules to ensure that myself and others can have a fun role playing experience. Thank you for your time.

(11) Provide a Screenshot of the message that appears when you try to join the server: - https://imgur.com/a/gM7Q60c

For Question 3, you can also tag the Staff Member who banned you so they can receive an immediate notification. To do this, type the: "@" symbol and the name of the staff member after it. If you are not sure who the staff member is on the forums, just list their in-game name and Forum Staff/Server Staff will tag that staff member!

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  Zahara Linden-Blackfyre 2nd mod app
Posted by: Zahara Linden-Blackfyre - 01-17-2021, 10:42 PM - Forum: Volunteer Staff Applications - Replies (17)

Volunteer Staff Application Terms & Conditions

Last updated: January 4th, 2021

These Volunteer Staff Application Terms & Conditions constitute a legally binding agreement made between you, whether personally or on behalf of an entity (“you”) and Star by Star Gaming ("Company", “we”, “us”, or “our”), concerning your volunteer services on any of our services and or platforms such as and not limited to, our website, game servers, any other media form, media channel, console or PC application, mobile website or mobile application related, linked, or otherwise connected thereto. You agree that by posting this application and or responding to application question (1.) with "Yes, I do agree to these terms and conditions.", you have read, understood, and agreed to be bound by all of these terms and conditions. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH ALL OF THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, THEN YOU ARE EXPRESSLY PROHIBITED FROM APPLYING FOR A VOLUNTEER STAFF POSITION AND YOU MUST DISCONTINUE YOUR APPLICATION PROCESS IMMEDIATELY.

You accept and understand that you are not any form of an employee, contractor, or agent of Star by Star Gaming.

We reserve the right to remove or let go of any volunteer staff member for any reason and at any time at our sole discretion.

Any and all actions, including and not limited to, player and or user punishment, such as issued bans or otherwise on our game servers, websites, or other platforms, as well as any statements made by you, or any behavioral misconduct, does not express the views of Star by Star Gaming and are conducted at your sole discretion. You agree that all of these are of your own and you withhold full personal responsibility. Your actions, behavior, and or statements will be taken or given at your sole discretion and you agree to defend, indemnify, and hold us harmless, including our subsidiaries, affiliates, and all of our respective officers, agents, partners, contractors, volunteers, volunteer staff, and employees, from and against any loss, damage, liability, claim, or demand due to the outcomes of your actions, statements, and or behaviors while performing volunteer staff services for Star by Star Gaming.


Please do not remove or delete these terms and conditions from your application, otherwise your application will be considered and declared void.

Applicants Steam ID - STEAM_0:1:18510215

(1.) Do you agree to and accept the Volunteer Staff Application Terms & Conditions? If so, please answer with "Yes, I do agree and accept these terms and conditions."  Yes, I do agree and accept these terms and conditions.

(1a) What is your most recent or commonly known in-game name or alias?[[bZahara Linden-Blackfyre[/b]

(1b) What is your current year level in-game? (MUST be at least 7th year to apply.) - Year 7 Master Prestige 

(2.) In which time zone do you reside? - Mountain Time

(2a) Please provide the hours of the day that you are the most active on the Hogwarts RP server according to CST (Chicago, US), so the managers and staff know when they can expect to see you. - On work Days would be 8:00 Pm to 11:00 Pm CST 
On non Work days were gonna be looking at 3pm CST to anywhere to 1am CST

(3.) What is your age?   23

(4.) Approximately, when was the first time that you joined our Hogwarts RP server and how did you initially discover it? - Discovered by my brother
who then introduced me to the server back in November 2017

(4a) How can we be certain that you will remain active on the server upon being accepted for a volunteer staffing position? -  Upon being Accepted i assure you that my activity will only get better, i picked those times so i can have time for IRL things , plus with me not having to share a computer is an extra bonus.

(4b) Do you understand that you can be let go at any time for excessive inactivity at our discretion? - I do understand that's the main reason why i decided to resign . i cant be a "only half active" staff when someone who's more active can fill the position.

(5.) Do you understand and agree to not only comply with, but also enforce the rules of the server when necessary? -  I completely Understand, and i have done just that in the past.

(5a) When listing the 10 basic rules, please explain what they each mean to convey to us that you understand and comprehend them wholly.
List Rules below:

1: Fail RP - Fail RP is doing anything that you as a student, professor , Dark forces wouldn't usually do in regular RP instances.
2: Disrespect- Disrespect can be anything from being rude to someone for no reason, using hate speech all , or harassing other players.
3:  No RDM- Don't Being harming other players with Verdimillious or any other damaging spell for no reason, you have to have a VALID RP reason in order to cause harm to other players, and not because you want to.
4:Obey RP Leaders and Staff members-  Obeying your RP leaders and staff members is a must. Dark Forces Should Follow Voldy and do what he says , and you gotta follow what staff say, the only time this is Acquitted is if an RP leader Asks you to break ANY server Rules.
5: No Massive  Freespelling- Dont be Shooting People With damage spells without an RP reason. usually this rule only applies to damage spells since non damaging spells are usually handled within RP. In some cases staff might have to step in if it gets too far.
6: No Metagaming- Metagaming is for example if someone comes up to an unrevealed  Horcrux, Snatcher, or any other job that has cuffs and can sell students saying " THEY GOT CUFFS , THEY'RE A SNATCHER KILL HIM" . This is because they would be using information that they wouldn't have within RP. 
7: No Micspamming/Chat spamming- Don't be Screaming into your mic for no valid reason, Don't play any "Banger" Music through your mic. don't spam the chat. Staff sometimes may give permission for people to play music, that music should never contain any words that would infringe into rule 2.
8: Owlpost is for Significant Roleplay purposes only- Don't Owlpost about the icecream you had for dinner that's not what its for. you can use it as a teacher to let everyone know PTS is active , or what spells are given out , which forces claimed the pitch and selling students, those are some examples of what Owlpost should be used for.
9: No ERP- we all know about this one , and i think i can speak for a good majority of the server is : we don't want it around us, we dont wanna hear it. nobody wants to hear about your Sexual Fantasies or anything of the sort. like I've stated we have kids on the server so try to keep it kid friendly.
10: Dont Avoid the AFK System or map exploit- Don't use any fancy Macros to make it look like your still running around the map . do what the rest of us did and go to class collect homework , get your spells and gain xp while also making friends.
if you find a exploit on the server don't hesitate to contact a staff member and don't use it yourself.

(6.) Tell us a little about yourself and why you would like to be accepted for a volunteer staffing position on SBS. (100 words or less) 
Hej hej Its me ya girl Cina, I like to laugh and have a good time, i got some hobbies like knitting or i was really into the diamond art stuff for awhile . ive been on and off of the server for the last 3years and 2 months , i know the in's and out's of the server since my time, and would love to actually do some good here.
(7.) In your opinion, which quality of yourself do you feel that you need to improve on the most? 
I gotta say , i do struggle with strictness , not saying i cant be , just saying its something i struggle with, im alittle too laid back
(7a) In your opinion, which skill set of yours do you feel that you need to improve on the most? 
Probably typing , i can type fast but im not as fast as i used to be.
(8.) How would having you on our volunteer staff team benefit our server and what qualities set you apart from the rest of the applicants? 
Im a pretty calm and collected individual , i have past experiences of working at a fast food joint so i know how it can be, i have alot of patience specially when it comes to busy days , i keep my cool and treat everyone with kindness and respect.
(9.) Have you ever previously maintained a game server staffing position, or currently are, on any other Garry's Mod servers? If so, which ones, and in which staffing positions? (List them if possible) -Not on any other servers but i was staff before for SBS

(10.) Have you ever previously been banned on any Garry's Mod or SBS servers? If yes, then please list approximately when, how long, and the reasoning(s).  In my whole 3 years of playing i have never been banned.

(11.) In your opinion, are the server staff or the players of more importance? Why? -
Staff and players are equally important. Without the players we would not even have a server they can tell their friends to join on , and without the staff there would be complete and utter chaos, and no one to make sure everyone is safe and having a good time.
(12) How would you rate your skills overall out of 10 (E.g., patience, response time, etc.) -
1.Paitence: 9/10
2.Response time : 8/10
3.Learning: 8/10
4: Leadership: 8/10
(13.) If you find yourself in a 'staff-sit' where you're unsure of how to fairly distribute punishment and or handle the situation or discrepancy at hand, what do you do? - I would ask a more seasoned staff on how to pursue, if there is no other staff online and I am unable to contact one I would problem solve it myself and try and find a medium in the situation until I am able to ask.

(14.) You both understand and realize, that by applying for a volunteer staffing position on the server, you are sacrificing the complete freedom of being able to role-play and or socialize freely all the time without any interruptions, and are obligated to handle all server issues and or volunteer staff position tasks at hand no matter the situation and to the best of your abilities? -Yes

(15.) If applicable, please provide a list of all your previous volunteer staff applications, provide a link to them if possible, and list any reasons why they may have been locked. If they were previously accepted, please provide a short explanation of why you are no longer volunteer staff at the time of this application. (Disregard if this is your first application)  - https://starbystargaming.com/showthread?tid=3060
I was accepted but I had to resign due to my IRL job work Schedule . 

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